Topic: fugging presidents

What could go wrong if Trump is elected?

My understanding is very limited and everyone just whines about what he says and how he looks like, but what would actually happen that I would give a flying fuck about?

Austerity? Would the economy get worse? Muh jerbs? Muh wages? What about freedumbs? Inflation?

What if Sanders is elected?

Less freedums? SOCIALISM TOTALLY

Would I be richer or poorer?

Fucking politics.

Learning about this bullshit seriously doesn't seem worth it enough to me. How much I can better myself vs. how much effort I have to spend trying to learn about this stupid bullshit just really doesn't seem worth it.

If everyone was this apathetic, then maybe everything would go to shit. I dunno. But I don't think it'd go much more to shit. Most of politics is just some stupid ass blah blah bullshit shitshow.

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Ikr

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From the looks of it, Trump has no chance, focus on more likely candidates like Hillary or Jeb or whoever the fuck. It would be extremely grotesque if Trump actually made any kind of close shot at a general election. It's extremely unlikely. Sanders probably has a better shot but I don't think he has too much of a shot either.


Bernie might win in Iowa or New Hampshire but just like Bill it seems more likely Hillary will go on to win anyway. Granted Sanders is only like 15 points in terms of party support behind... I guess we'll see. But Trump is way less likely imo.


Sanders might have a chance sort of but I still doubt it. It's still early days.

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>Hillary
>Jeb

Just what we need. another 8 years of Bush/Clinton dynasty.
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>Bernie Sanders
>"socialism"

inb4 Gore accuses me of no true Scotsman fallacy and then commits a straw man in the same post

inb4 Wes bait

inb4 VR something

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RammsteinFearFactory wrote:

>Bernie Sanders
>"socialism"

inb4 Gore accuses me of no true Scotsman fallacy and then commits a straw man in the same post

inb4 Wes bait

inb4 VR something

socialism is gay

sloth wrote:

Comfy does not provide challenge, challenge provides success, success provides happiness. Our world is not comfy, although we tried to make it so. Slaves of our own inventions, yada, yada. Not only on a technological level, also on a social and political level. Nothing more but apes. Apes with psychosomatic disorders.

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but are all gays socialist?
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Wes wrote:


^^ funny
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yes they're filthy soviet spy commies conspiring to take over america

sloth wrote:

Comfy does not provide challenge, challenge provides success, success provides happiness. Our world is not comfy, although we tried to make it so. Slaves of our own inventions, yada, yada. Not only on a technological level, also on a social and political level. Nothing more but apes. Apes with psychosomatic disorders.

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Sanders is definitely ultra-commie by U.S. standards.

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Sanders is secretely related to Adam sandler

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absentinsomniac wrote:

Sanders is secretely related to Adam sandler

absolutely undialectical

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loon_attic wrote:

yes they're filthy soviet spy commies conspiring to take over america

can confirm is tru

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everything is shit and people love it because they're hipster masochists or something

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absentinsomniac wrote:

From the looks of it, Trump has no chance, focus on more likely candidates like Hillary or Jeb or whoever the fuck. It would be extremely grotesque if Trump actually made any kind of close shot at a general election. It's extremely unlikely. Sanders probably has a better shot but I don't think he has too much of a shot either.


Bernie might win in Iowa or New Hampshire but just like Bill it seems more likely Hillary will go on to win anyway. Granted Sanders is only like 15 points in terms of party support behind... I guess we'll see. But Trump is way less likely imo.


Sanders might have a chance sort of but I still doubt it. It's still early days.

Trump is polling well, if that's any indication (protip: it's not a very good one)

In predictions markets he does ok: http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016RepNomination
but people are having a hard time putting their money up for trump. and prediction markets are a VERY good indicator

If we're looking at Trump's chances of the general election, they're at 6% on predictwise:
http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016president
Sander's is the same.

top 6:
Hillary Clinton: 43 %
Jeb Bush: 14 %
Joe Biden: 13 %   
Marco Rubio: 9 %   
Bernie Sanders: 6 %   
Donald Trump: 6 %   

So I don't see how Trump is any less likely than Sanders.

I also don't see how it would be "extremely grotesque" if Trump got close to the presidency. No more grotesque than any other election. The guy isn't fucking Hitler. He's relatively liberal on a lot of issues and he'll be a puppet to the same pressures as every previous president, and nothing of substance will change. Same for Bernie.

Anyway, prepare your anus for 4 to 8 years of Hitlery.

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Assuming Hilary doesn't fall dead during her presidency.

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^^ funny
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Wes you're nitpicky


Sanders is significantly  more likely. Still not likely, though. It's because he's not a troll.

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I also don't see how it would be "extremely grotesque" if Trump got close to the presidency. No more grotesque than any other election. The guy isn't fucking Hitler. He's relatively liberal on a lot of issues and he'll be a puppet to the same pressures as every previous president, and nothing of substance will change. Same for Bernie.


get off of facebook lmao it's not even comparable fucking autist go suck a dick and affixiate on cum like the gaywad u r

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bllah look a random ass post

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it doesn't matter what happens, shit is like totally fucked even though one can live decently MATERIALLY i still don't like it and i want to killl mysleeeoffff oh my good fick you stupid adults

sloth wrote:

Comfy does not provide challenge, challenge provides success, success provides happiness. Our world is not comfy, although we tried to make it so. Slaves of our own inventions, yada, yada. Not only on a technological level, also on a social and political level. Nothing more but apes. Apes with psychosomatic disorders.

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if you look at politics really closely


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everyone you know and love is going to die

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Also at this point none of those are good predictors. Practically nothing is. Prediction markets are better, but why would you claim they're "very good"? If you look at historical cases at about this time in the process nobody ever accurately predicts shit. The reality is Trump basically hasn't any chance, nd yes, it would be fundamentally grotesque if he had an actual shot. You're just a meme lord who has jumped on the autism bandwagon.


I never said Sanders is likely. But, he is very clearly more likely than Trump, intuitevly. P.S, while presidents don't have some ultimate authority to change a bunch of shit, they have a bigger impact than you're letting on. The retards who get into power alongside the president, subtle undiscussed policy moves, appointments. These things have a tremendous impact economically as well as in terms of enforcement and how we operate as a country. The ripples are far and wide. There is a general direction of policy which likely won't change, but Trump would be a wildcard and neither business nor I like it.


P.PS, General election predictions now are even more far removed than primaries. Predictions base info on available data, and available opinion. That data and subsequently the prediction marks sway massively early on, even after the first primary votes etc... Better than polls doesn't mean good.


P.p.PS, Trump has been saying radical shit for months, sugarcoating it to stay in the race and trying to tone down his idiotic trolling is a requirement for him to remain relevant.

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Trump is a whiny bitch, Fiorina outsourced American jobs to make millions, Carson is a dumbass who shouldn't be in politics, Christie is the fat guy with a big mouth, Jeb is the "another bush", Rubio is a Republican kiss-ass, Huckabee is a bible thumping moron, Paul is fake libertarian, Kasich supposedly likes to keep shit secret, and Cruz looks like shady used car dealer.

Hillary is a professional politician DC-insider(and her "populism" is just BS to get elected) and Sanders is a self-proclaimed socialist(which when translated to rednecks means "dirty commie").

Y dafuq did warren not run? I'd have preferred her most.

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Wes wrote:


^^ funny
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the most well written and verbose shitposter on the internet

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Tbh I'm still waiting on a possible republican candidate to pop out of nowhere. That seems like it's becoming less likely, to my satisfaction :p


I'm still afraid Hilary will buttfuck our rights worse than fucking Obama is doing. So would a Republican candidate. But at least a democratic candidate will try to stay the economic course, which so far has been pretty good. We need stable consistent policy atm. If a dem wins then the republican party might even have to actually rework their policies since atm it doesn't seem to differ too much from bush era policies. It's a shame they probably won't rework their economic policies too much. Their base is stuck on "simple" solutions like straight flat tax and cutting taxes for everyone without replacing them...


Unless Hilary takes us to war, which is also a possibility. Possible from the looks of things in Syria. That could almost be justified, in a way. That's how fucked shit is. Idk. Still, I wouldn't trust her to execute a conflict any more than I trust other candidates to do so. Ugh. We seem to have a long term military / economic strategy where we insert a puppet in that region... It probably won't be settling down if that's the plan for several more years.

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IMO Obama didn't expect to deal with the shitload of international crises when he ran for president. He was probably hoping to undo Bush's "stick da dick in every hole" foreign policy doctrine but unfortunately ended up with a shitload of civil wars and terrorists instead. I think Obama will be best remembered for Obamacare and drone strikes(and being first black president).

We need a president who will fix foreign policy cause realistically speaking, the US has no foreign policy. It's a fucked up mire of bad ideas and inaccurate intelligence wrapped in political bullshit and neatly tied with bureaucratic red tape. We've been seesawing between helping everyone and helping no one, successfully causing the people from opposing sides to equally despise us. Egypt is a prime example. We back the Brotherhood and the secularists said "fuck you!" so with coup we realized the secularists were right from the start so we stopped aiding Brotherhood and then Brotherhood was like "fuck you!" so we ended up somewhere in between them both and equally received a "fuck you!" once more from the both of them.

We literally can't stick to a specific goal. There's a fuck up,  and in a rush to de-fuck, we just fuck up more. Clearly there's a serious leadership issue if people keep fucking up and people keep going with bad ideas(while ignoring the good ones).

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Wes wrote:


^^ funny
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the most well written and verbose shitposter on the internet

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While the U.S may not know what it's doing in terms of foreign policy, I believe they *think* they do over at the big 'ol NSC. Given the NSA's capabilities, also, it wouldn't surprise me if they know exactly what they're doing. It's just not something we're privy to.


I think, down the line Obama is going to be known as a great president, who also anally fucked us in terms of civil rights. But the anal fucking is usually ignored, so he'll probably just be known as a great president. Why? Obamacare, the bailouts that essentially turned the economy around, pulling out of a couple of wars (weather you think he did it in a decent fashion or not...), killing Bin Laden, initiating drug war changes, initiation of prison reform, he'll probably be known for his clean energy initiatives, the fucking Iran deal for sure, also his work on infrastructure... Enhanced civil rights *in some areas where he didn't fuck them up worse*, enhanced transparency... IMO he helped improve foreign relations, despite the NSA shit. Veterans affairs reform. Education reform. Science and technology reforms.


To put it bluntly, he's done a fucking lot of good. Also a lot of bad. If Obamacare isn't all great, which it isn't, it at least helped curb the ever growing medical expenses which were definitely on an unsustainable path. We would have been fucked if we didn't do something big to curb that.

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Sanders has practically admitted he will shill for whichever Democrat gets elected, like he's done before. He's essentially a leftish-seeming candidate who will either not get elected and act as a means to draw more left-wing people to vote Hilary or if he does win, will compromise a fuck ton of his positions.

It's pretty important to understand the political spectrum as both an overall dichotomy and how it works in different political situations, eras and regions. Like, realistically Sanders is centre-left at his very best. He's more right wing than your average social democrat and he's more of a liberal. Politics internationally but especially in the US has shifted to right significantly (Although in the US, one could say much hasn't 'shifted', it's always been that way). In the current US political climate, Sanders is seen as pretty left wing. Just as how Corbyn is seen as a communist in Britain etc.

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That's because he's not an idiot. Can you think of any communist/socialist party candidates in the U.S off the top of your head? Almost no one can. They're are not relevant, but they exist. You also can't do anything at all without compromise besides fuck with things in the sphere of influence of the president. Nothing to turn your nose up at but it's not like anyone could conceivably "fix" shit overnight.