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#1 2015-10-05 17:26:05

absentinsomniac
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TPP agreement reached

They're releasing the document soon i think.


[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPddMcL-HcM[/video]


If the piracy measures haven't changed since they were leaked, we're about to get fucked hard. VPN's that allow torrents are going to get hit hard as fuck and will go out of business.


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#2 2015-10-05 17:27:08

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Re: TPP agreement reached

fucking bs

What do you think this'll do to private trackers?...


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#3 2015-10-05 17:33:19

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Re: TPP agreement reached

Well, as far as I can tell they're getting more authority to go after any pirates who do it on a "commercial scale". That hasn't been defined, so for all we know they could go after individuals. It also puts a lot more pressure on ISP's. I seriously doubt they'll actually worry about "commercial scale", instead they'll just go after whoever is torrenting.


The reason private trackers work, as you know, is just that they don't allow public access so companies don't normally get IP's of people sharing their files. If the ISP's are pressured into deep packet inspection, and your connection isn't encrypted, then the ISP's might be forced to hand over your identity. So even with private trackers, you'd be fucked.


This is really all speculation, we're going to have to wait until the full text is out. Based on the leaked stuff, the worst case? They will fine us based on deep packet inspection results, assuming it's not encrypted. Some connections aren't encrypted IIRC, so you'll have to disable all non encrypted connections somehow. Also they'll probably go after anyone who hosts private trackers more heavily. Several countries in this deal were probably home to their hosts...


I guess we'll see.


And I'm not even getting into the fucking trade aspects where a lot of people will be out the job... Capital will be easily transferable cross-nations, etc. The impact of that is unknown. There will probably be a large net benefit for corporations. Who knows what the net will be for individual nations, let alone individuals. Could be good could be bad.


The negotiations based on private corporate lawyers is a bad sign. A really bad sign. It's anti-democratic as fuck. It takes away individual countries ability to legislate for itself. Very sketchy huge business type shit going on here.


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#4 2015-10-05 17:39:12

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Re: TPP agreement reached

sux dick


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#5 2015-10-05 17:58:20

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Re: TPP agreement reached

worl gon end


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#6 2015-10-05 18:18:07

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Re: TPP agreement reached

The reality is in the short term the only thing I'm worried about that personally touches me is it's digital rights impact.


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#7 2015-10-05 18:18:17

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Re: TPP agreement reached

Goodbye, sovereignty!

Dystopia coming soon. Get a grill for end of world tinfoil hat making soon.


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#8 2015-10-05 19:41:53

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Re: TPP agreement reached

And we think Obama gonna be remembered favorably for selling Murika.

I dont get it. NAFTA revealed that all this sort of free trade does is ship American business out. Ffs car companies in detroit have the Canadians across the border put the cars together rather than having Americans do it. The "made in America" logo is total bullshit.

Now we can just send all our tech jobs to the Japs and whatever and further cut costs.

And what if one of those asian countries start shipping us some of that shitty fake chinese rice made with plastic and potato puree? (Couldnt find any sources beyond some asianish and questionable sites for some reason) or whatever dirty crap China doesnt dare send itself get laundred through places like Vietnam?

Im glad Obama is getting ready for the end of his presidency by selling America. The next few years will be awesome when we cant find decent jobs cause some chink is doing it for 1/100 of what we'd be paid. Im sure we'll also be curious why with the cheaper labor, we still pay such high costs for goods.

If you arent a multinational corporation, good luck surviving for very long (assuming the deal isnt squashed). Its cynically amusing therr has been practically no media coverage of this.


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#9 2015-10-05 20:21:23

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Re: TPP agreement reached

I look forward to the damned thing finally being published.


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#10 2015-10-05 21:49:16

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Re: TPP agreement reached

So it looks like this could, if the things in it haven't changed too much:

  • Take shit out of the public domain

  • Have a negative effect on hackers, journalists, and whistle blowers (see trade secrets section)

  • Implement DRM circumvention ban

  • Additional copyright enforcement rules... this could fuck up archival sites and various online communities. People will go to jail.

  • Shits on fair use even more by opening up litigation against non-U.S countries by U.S companies
    etc, ad infinitum


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#11 2015-10-05 22:26:17

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Re: TPP agreement reached

>Windoo 10 tracking your IP
>Moot sells out 4chan
>google removing sites like 8chan, pirate bay, and anything they deem a "fringe movement"
>joogle buys out youtube and starts censoring anything and everything for "copyright claims" or "hate speech"
>Edward Snowden + wikileaks
>sudden emegrence of SJW thought police
>gamergate happenings
>the U.N. siding with the SJWs to fight "harassment"
>SOPA, DARPA, and now TPP

I give it a few years and that is a generous estimate. They want to turn the internet into a giant facebook, where nothing is private and everything you post is public for all to see.

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#12 2015-10-05 22:40:18

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Re: TPP agreement reached

>> Agreeing with gore


Yep, we're in the wrong dimension mang


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#13 2015-10-05 22:52:06

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Re: TPP agreement reached

Also they're trying to backdoor all corporate cryptography etc, so you should probably know about this as well:


https://savecrypto.org/


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#14 2015-10-05 22:56:41

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Re: TPP agreement reached

Soon we'll all have national internet IDs we need to sign in with before accessing the web, which will conviently gather all our browsing habits including browsing history and thus know when you've been watching tranny porn , searching for beastiality, and occassionally indulging in a gallery of firearms and their specifications. And your criticism of the gubament ID(in which case suddenly you get logged out of the web and it says you're permanently banned from using the internet)


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#15 2015-10-05 23:04:38

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Re: TPP agreement reached

>Saudi Arabia leader of Human Rights council in UN
blehh


sloth wrote:

Comfy does not provide challenge, challenge provides success, success provides happiness. Our world is not comfy, although we tried to make it so. Slaves of our own inventions, yada, yada. Not only on a technological level, also on a social and political level. Nothing more but apes. Apes with psychosomatic disorders.

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#16 2015-10-05 23:43:01

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Re: TPP agreement reached

>Public executions
>Bombing weddings
>Slavery
>???
>Leader of Human Rights Council


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#17 2015-10-05 23:52:40

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Re: TPP agreement reached

I feel like the whole world is a fucking sick joke sometimes


sloth wrote:

Comfy does not provide challenge, challenge provides success, success provides happiness. Our world is not comfy, although we tried to make it so. Slaves of our own inventions, yada, yada. Not only on a technological level, also on a social and political level. Nothing more but apes. Apes with psychosomatic disorders.

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#18 2015-10-06 00:10:39

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Re: TPP agreement reached

Might as well join the sick joke and start my own cult. Why let other wackos dictate how the world works?


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#19 2015-10-06 01:43:06

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Re: TPP agreement reached

sigh

why do they ruin a GREAT trade deal with all this other bullshit


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#20 2015-10-06 02:30:38

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Re: TPP agreement reached


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#21 2015-10-06 02:58:34

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Re: TPP agreement reached

Because it wasn't meant for trade, thats the guise it was just running under lel

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#22 2015-10-06 03:33:10

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Re: TPP agreement reached

There's some mention of enforcing labor practices but I don't know how they intend to go about doing that. Through US court?(in which case it'll take a few years) and even after the decision, say in favor of US against the "criminal", how will it actually be enforced in a country a few thousand miles away?

Plus what'll happen when corporations get sue crazy? We just gonna let them roll into our courts, and if they win, be forced adhere to the judgement passed?

Obama didn't create any free trade. He opened the door to some shitty abyss that'd practically shit on what remains of most American labor while at the same time opening the door to foreign corporations to stick their dicks in our national interests. There's a lot of hoopla over immigrants, but if the TPP lets foreign corporations sue us, immigrants will be the least of our worries.

Why the fuck are Republicans backing this shit? They bitch about making America great while selling off the country behind their backs? I hope the TPP comes up during the presidental elections. If the TPP is fully released and it turns out to be as bad as feared, I have a feeling Republicans will get slammed with campaign attacks criticizing their support for selling the country to foreign corporations. Sanders seems to have been against it 5ever, but Clinton might do a flip(like her usual politicking self. I hope she doesn't become the nominee cause that lady is batshit aristocrat professional politician liar). Trump also claims to be against it(which might actually be an advantage for him).

I wonder if it'll cause a split in both parties. It seems to be causing some mixed opinions among many of them. Obama successfully trolled America.


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#23 2015-10-06 09:28:09

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Re: TPP agreement reached


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#24 2015-10-06 18:56:15

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Re: TPP agreement reached

RammsteinFearFactory wrote:

Goodbye, sovereignty!

Dystopia coming soon. Get a grill for end of world tinfoil hat making soon.

like you ever gave a fuck about sovereignty fukin gommie

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#25 2015-10-06 19:28:20

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Re: TPP agreement reached

I think...it might be a good time...we had peace for a long time now, but now...why should we get assfucked any longer by you americunts, or our politicians?


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