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#1 2012-07-23 09:21:38

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America is fucked

America is going to fall to pieces. Why? The economy is shit, the healthcare is shit, humans rights are getting thrown right out of the fucking window and soldiers are sent to die every single day.

It's only a matter of time before America will fall. That time, is very fucking close. You've got Obama, the cowardly dog, and Mitt Romney, the dumbass with a stupid name.

They both suck.

However, America has a choice. They can pick Mitt (What a stupid fucking name, I swear) and have a quick fall, America will probably lose it's superpower status in around 10 years maximum. Or, they can pick Obama and have a few more years to save their asses, depending on whether Obama gets the courage to run the nation himself.

Don't get me wrong, the US could be saved. It's just the stupidity of people, combined with the selfishness of people, that makes it seem very unlikely.

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#2 2012-07-23 12:14:43

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Re: America is fucked

the US could be saved.

nope.avi

A big welfare/police state will not just simply revert to a good minarchist country peacefully and democratically. People are going to need a real wake up call before they get off their asses and start thinking.


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#3 2012-07-23 14:11:23

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Re: America is fucked

Or maybe it's not doomsday.


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#4 2012-07-23 14:14:27

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Re: America is fucked

Wes wrote:

Or maybe it's not doomsday.

Or maybe that.

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#5 2012-07-23 14:23:03

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Re: America is fucked

SwiftEscudo wrote:
Wes wrote:

Or maybe it's not doomsday.

Or maybe that.

I mean, I'm not happy with all the things that are happening, but it's not like America is completely screwing herself over. Just partially. We still have a semblance of a market economy, rather strong civil rights in many cases, and it's not like we're in a state of total war. Our economy may be shit, but shit compared to what? Compared to the 1930s, our economy is better. There's really no comparison in that respect, as we have a much higher standard of living. Even if American living standards fell by 1/3rd, we'd still have it relatively well off compared to a good portion of the rest of the world.

I highly doubt America will fall to pieces, although it's not completely implausible. Maybe it will decline in power, like how the British Empire fell.

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#6 2012-07-23 14:25:55

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Re: America is fucked

Wes wrote:

Maybe it will decline in power, like how the British Empire fell.

Yeah, that's what I meant, although I exaggerated it.

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#7 2012-07-23 15:10:21

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Re: America is fucked

It'll be a slow painful fall unless we get invaded.


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#8 2012-07-23 15:12:11

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Re: America is fucked

Gjelosh Shqipënia wrote:

It'll be a slow painful fall unless we get invaded.

Or maybe, you know, nothing really bad will actually happen.


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#9 2012-07-23 15:15:15

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Re: America is fucked

I think something will unless people in general change.


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#10 2012-07-23 15:18:59

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Re: America is fucked

Gjelosh Shqipënia wrote:

I think something will unless people in general change.

People are the same as they've always been.


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#11 2012-07-23 17:47:43

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Re: America is fucked

5 dollars says you don't know anything about the healthcare. Presidents have been shit ever since the 30's so whoopdeedoo, and we aren't a super power were a hyper power.

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#12 2012-07-23 18:31:17

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Re: America is fucked

Obama's not that bad if you compare him to the last 3 presidents.

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#13 2012-07-23 20:11:19

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Re: America is fucked

Fish20 wrote:

Obama's not that bad if you compare him to the last 3 presidents.

I'd say he's roughly in their league, and a little worse on some accounts. Unless you mean "at golf," at which point I'd agree with you.


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#14 2012-07-23 23:33:35

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Re: America is fucked

Wes wrote:
Gjelosh Shqipënia wrote:

I think something will unless people in general change.

People are the same as they've always been.

I dont see how you feel that way.


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#15 2012-07-23 23:39:38

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Re: America is fucked

Clintion wasn't bad everyone else pretty much sucked.

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#16 2012-07-24 01:40:24

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Re: America is fucked

Gjelosh Shqipënia wrote:
Wes wrote:
Gjelosh Shqipënia wrote:

I think something will unless people in general change.

People are the same as they've always been.

I dont see how you feel that way.

I don't see how you feel the way you do. Our DNA hasn't changed, but our institutions and technology have. Our institutions and technology have (for the most part) changed for the better. We live longer, we're more literate, and we're definitely less violent.

Hell, chew on this fact:

By examining collections of ancient skeletons and scrutinizing current day tribal societies, anthropologists have found that people were nine times more likely to be killed in tribal warfare than to die of war and genocide in even the war-torn 20th century. The murder rate in medieval Europe was 30 times higher than today.

By any measure, the people of medieval Europe and those in tribal societies had lives leaps and bounds worse than ours. Their political institutions were usually authoritarian and barbaric. If you think people are awful now, try 800 years ago or further back.

But people haven't really changed. Like I said, our institutions have. It's the way we're brought up and socialized.


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#17 2012-07-24 14:20:07

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Re: America is fucked

I agree with you i think you misunderstood what i said. I did not mean people changing fundamentally.


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#18 2012-07-24 17:17:11

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Re: America is fucked

Gjelosh Shqipënia wrote:

I agree with you i think you misunderstood what i said. I did not mean people changing fundamentally.

Then what did you mean?


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