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#26 2015-10-28 04:42:32

Hamish Howl
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

TheWake wrote:

I abandoned natural rights quite awhile ago. They're basically a form of moral realism.

Your rights are what you have left when the screaming stops, basically.  There are no "natural rights", just what you can seize and hold.

Which is to say, right now, none.  Your freedom exists because nobody has noticed you.

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#27 2015-10-28 04:45:46

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Hamish Howl wrote:
TheWake wrote:

I abandoned natural rights quite awhile ago. They're basically a form of moral realism.

Your rights are what you have left when the screaming stops, basically.  There are no "natural rights", just what you can seize and hold.

Which is to say, right now, none.  Your freedom exists because nobody has noticed you.

butter lay low bro don't want the man to find out your plan


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#28 2015-10-28 04:48:54

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

TheWake wrote:

butter lay low bro don't want the man to find out your plan

wut

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#29 2015-10-28 17:49:20

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

MIGHT IS RIGHT RIGHT IS MIGHT


"Humanity Is Overrated" - Shrek

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#30 2015-10-28 19:16:10

Hamish Howl
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

V.R. wrote:

MIGHT IS RIGHT RIGHT IS MIGHT


That may not be morally true, but it is precisely what we demanded as a society.

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#31 2015-10-29 00:36:06

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

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#32 2015-10-29 03:34:54

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

One of the major opponents of the idea was the IRS. Because every organization knows that the only way you can do anything is the way they've always been doing it. This was something new, and they kept telling us how impossible it was. It was a very interesting and very challenging intellectual task. I played a significant role, no question about it, in introducing withholding. I think it's a great mistake for peacetime, but in 1941-43, all of us were concentrating on the war.

I have no apologies for it, but I really wish we hadn't found it necessary and I wish there were some way of abolishing withholding now.

http://conversableeconomist.blogspot.co … nvent.html

The beauty of science. Making stuff that seemed like a good idea at the time, then rueing the day you thought it up later.

IMO Freidman should stay out of government opinions. He might be economist, but I don't think he'd be practical politician.

For one, define government. Local? State? Federal? Are we to assume that "defense-security-contracts" applies to every tier? Is it rearranging economy if a state charges highway usage tax, or is it rearranging if federal government seeks to create unified system across all states. This in regards to interstate trucking(brutal requirements. Practically every state has its own requirements, some even having their own extra taxes if you go through their territory). I'd rather see the fed push all the states to adopt a specific guideline to make it a streamlined process, thus preventing the slipshod arrangement of taxes and fees from miring truckers in shitloads of state bureaucracy.

Another thing I noticed is the heritage foundations praise of Freidman and a list of various places that have "successfully" adopted his theories. You know what I noticed it? None of them were Federal Republics, and most of them were quite strongly centralized(one being a fucking arab oil monarchy).

IMHO if this shit wants to be taken seriously, it shouldn't be any of that bullshit about "3 things gubament should do". There should be proper research done into the federal style of government along with the theoretiacl analysis of the practicaility, causality, and implementation of such methods in such a country.

This is Amurika bitches. We ain't like any other country. Just cause it works for a Royal Sheik or a Chilean Dictator doesn't mean it'll work in our republic.


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#33 2015-10-29 03:42:53

Hamish Howl
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.

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#34 2015-10-29 04:08:50

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Hamish Howl wrote:

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.


I think we should try it once.

At least we'd die laughing.


All the boys want to fuck me and the ladies want to be me. Neuroscience 4 lyfe, bitchez.

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#35 2015-10-29 04:11:41

Hamish Howl
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.


I think we should try it once.

At least we'd die laughing.

2016 is just around the corner.  I'm already laughing myself into real medical danger.

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#36 2015-10-29 04:16:57

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.


I think we should try it once.

At least we'd die laughing.

2016 is just around the corner.  I'm already laughing myself into real medical danger.

I'm worried that Bernie Sanders will die just as it's starting to get good.


All the boys want to fuck me and the ladies want to be me. Neuroscience 4 lyfe, bitchez.

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#37 2015-10-29 04:20:52

Hamish Howl
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.


I think we should try it once.

At least we'd die laughing.

2016 is just around the corner.  I'm already laughing myself into real medical danger.

I'm worried that Bernie Sanders will die just as it's starting to get good.

Doesn't matter, really.  The way I see it, Sanders wins the primary, he loses in the general because the left isn't gonna be enough.  Hillary wins, the left walks.  So whatever lunatic gets the GOP nomination edges in and we all get what we've been begging for.

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#38 2015-10-29 04:22:18

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

if lunatic gets the GOP nomination I'm voting for lunatic he'd be gr8


Fucc

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#39 2015-10-29 04:26:00

TheWake
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.


I think we should try it once.

At least we'd die laughing.

2016 is just around the corner.  I'm already laughing myself into real medical danger.

I'm worried that Bernie Sanders will die just as it's starting to get good.

Doesn't matter, really.  The way I see it, Sanders wins the primary, he loses in the general because the left isn't gonna be enough.  Hillary wins, the left walks.  So whatever lunatic gets the GOP nomination edges in and we all get what we've been begging for.

The betting markets are on Hillary. I'd be surprised if she's not the next president. The GOP field is weak as fuck.


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#40 2015-10-29 04:28:18

Hamish Howl
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

TheWake wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.


I think we should try it once.

At least we'd die laughing.

2016 is just around the corner.  I'm already laughing myself into real medical danger.

I'm worried that Bernie Sanders will die just as it's starting to get good.

Doesn't matter, really.  The way I see it, Sanders wins the primary, he loses in the general because the left isn't gonna be enough.  Hillary wins, the left walks.  So whatever lunatic gets the GOP nomination edges in and we all get what we've been begging for.

The betting markets are on Hillary. I'd be surprised if she's not the next president. The GOP field is weak as fuck.

You were just babbling about Donald Trump, weren't you?

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#41 2015-10-29 04:32:14

TheWake
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Registered: 2012-06-09
Posts: 8,272

Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Hamish Howl wrote:
TheWake wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.


I think we should try it once.

At least we'd die laughing.

2016 is just around the corner.  I'm already laughing myself into real medical danger.

I'm worried that Bernie Sanders will die just as it's starting to get good.

Doesn't matter, really.  The way I see it, Sanders wins the primary, he loses in the general because the left isn't gonna be enough.  Hillary wins, the left walks.  So whatever lunatic gets the GOP nomination edges in and we all get what we've been begging for.

The betting markets are on Hillary. I'd be surprised if she's not the next president. The GOP field is weak as fuck.

You were just babbling about Donald Trump, weren't you?

Lel.


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#42 2015-10-29 04:33:57

Hamish Howl
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

TheWake wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
TheWake wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:
Marvelous Mister Nigel wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:

Withholding is the only way the government can run.  If they got all their money at once, it would be hookers and blow until mid-May, and then everything would stop.


I think we should try it once.

At least we'd die laughing.

2016 is just around the corner.  I'm already laughing myself into real medical danger.

I'm worried that Bernie Sanders will die just as it's starting to get good.

Doesn't matter, really.  The way I see it, Sanders wins the primary, he loses in the general because the left isn't gonna be enough.  Hillary wins, the left walks.  So whatever lunatic gets the GOP nomination edges in and we all get what we've been begging for.

The betting markets are on Hillary. I'd be surprised if she's not the next president. The GOP field is weak as fuck.

You were just babbling about Donald Trump, weren't you?

Lel.


Oh, so now you were "joking"?

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#43 2015-10-29 04:35:56

TheWake
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Hamish Howl wrote:
TheWake wrote:
Hamish Howl wrote:

You were just babbling about Donald Trump, weren't you?

Lel.


Oh, so now you were "joking"?

Jump4Trump 2016 make america great again

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#44 2015-10-29 04:37:12

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

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#45 2015-10-29 04:38:36

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

TheWake wrote:

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10/10 would vote for Comstock Trump


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Wes wrote:

^^ funny
this guy
the most well written and verbose shitposter on the internet

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#46 2015-10-29 05:16:19

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

I see it like this...
Everybody's gonna shoot it out. My wolf wins and takes over the whole country.

absentinsomniac wrote:

if lunatic gets the GOP nomination I'm voting for lunatic he'd be gr8

I fear I'd just  sit around and jack off like everyone else, but at least I could veto bullshit


sloth wrote:

Comfy does not provide challenge, challenge provides success, success provides happiness. Our world is not comfy, although we tried to make it so. Slaves of our own inventions, yada, yada. Not only on a technological level, also on a social and political level. Nothing more but apes. Apes with psychosomatic disorders.

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#47 2015-10-29 05:47:45

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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

make dne members your cabinet and appoint them to all the positions


Fucc

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#48 2015-10-29 12:46:44

brainiac3397
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Re: Why David Friedman wastes time arguing with unreasonable people online

Will u turn whitehouse into the ultimate bachelors club with strippers, hookers, wimmin, and everything else hedonistic? If so, stripper poles are a must.

Its so stuffy in thar. People need to loosen up. In fact, if our gubaments were more hedonistic we would have world peace as we pleasured ourselves into oblivion.q


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^^ funny
this guy
the most well written and verbose shitposter on the internet

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