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#26 2016-10-27 01:38:19

brainiac3397
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Re: DnE's perspective on the alt-right

Hitler dindunuffin.

Seriously. The DAP was in existence and there was all sorts of nationalist belief thanks to the volkisch movement along with the "stabbed-in-the-back theory" among the more ultra-nationalists. A decent number of academics and military personnel were staunchly nationalist and anti-semite, including journalists and economists. Hitler was introduced to the movement, ironically, as an agent who was supposed to infiltrate the movement as a military "recon commando" or something.

He was swayed by Anton Drexler's anti-semitic/marxist/capitalist nationalist beliefs and came to view when he defended Gottfried Feder against a professor question Feder's views on capitalism(Feder was a DAP member and economist who was critical of capitalism). Feder then brought Hitler with him and introduced him to the DAP leadership, where Hitler quickly began using his oratory skills on their behalf. In the end, he ended up positioning himself in a way to use the various leaders as a stepping stone and managing to manuever himself into power and finally the formation of the NSDAP with Hitler leading it.

Hitler didn't create a populist/nationalist society. It already existed, he was just the cherry on top.


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#27 2016-10-27 22:03:06

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Re: DnE's perspective on the alt-right

brainiac3397 wrote:

Anton Drexler's anti-semitic/marxist/capitalist nationalist beliefs

I read that as a list (anti-semitic, marxist and capitalist) at first and was really confused lmao

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#28 2016-10-28 00:01:36

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but I'm a marxist capitalist and a facist libertarian whats your point?


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#29 2016-10-28 00:46:44

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Hitler didn't create a populist/nationalist society. It already existed, he was just the cherry on top.

Hitler's main personal influence was actually the virulent nationalist left-liberal populist Georg Ritter von Schoenerer, IIRC.


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#30 2016-10-28 08:07:58

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Fish20 wrote:

but I'm a marxist capitalist and a facist libertarian whats your point?


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Comfy does not provide challenge, challenge provides success, success provides happiness. Our world is not comfy, although we tried to make it so. Slaves of our own inventions, yada, yada. Not only on a technological level, also on a social and political level. Nothing more but apes. Apes with psychosomatic disorders.

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#31 2016-10-28 14:46:11

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So, I take it DnE is not cleaning it's guns for the coming race war where Obama and the Clintons will not put us all in FEMA camps and force our white wimminz to breed with black bulls?

alt-right is click bait reactionary doom porn for isolated folks out in the sicks. Also, victim whoring. Alt-right loves to be a victim even more than leftard SJWs.

Problem is, it does not matter who the president is if you are doing shitty. President can change things like help pass shitty laws, but not that drastic. If you are doing shitty, it is a combination of your environment or yourself. You can change both. But, if it is the fault of a president, it means you can be shitty and you do not have to do anything because it is not your fault.

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#32 2016-10-28 18:02:45

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Re: DnE's perspective on the alt-right

Green1 wrote:

alt-right is click bait reactionary doom porn for isolated folks out in the sicks. Also, victim whoring. Alt-right loves to be a victim even more than leftard SJWs.

Problem is, it does not matter who the president is if you are doing shitty. President can change things like help pass shitty laws, but not that drastic. If you are doing shitty, it is a combination of your environment or yourself. You can change both. But, if it is the fault of a president, it means you can be shitty and you do not have to do anything because it is not your fault.

I don't feel like it is. feel because i'm not sure but that's my guess. economy seems fucked for the isolated folks on the sticks. Government is fucked, maybe "alt-right" doesn't see the fucked up shit the right way or something (ie it's all the president and not the entire system??? and yes police are good and do nothing bad)


sloth wrote:

Comfy does not provide challenge, challenge provides success, success provides happiness. Our world is not comfy, although we tried to make it so. Slaves of our own inventions, yada, yada. Not only on a technological level, also on a social and political level. Nothing more but apes. Apes with psychosomatic disorders.

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#33 2016-10-28 18:20:00

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Re: DnE's perspective on the alt-right

Green1 wrote:

where Obama and the Clintons will not put us all in FEMA camps and force our white wimminz to breed with black bulls?

why do wimminz get to have all the fun D:


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sloth wrote:

Hold your head down and you won't get hurt. You'll get exploited, abused and spit on, but hey at least you're safe. Fuck that. I have one life to live, and I'll live it my fucking way. Go on. Stand in my way. See what happens. See what happens when a good guy snaps.

sloth wrote:

There are cemetery for living people. They are called "cubicles". And "assembly line". And "McDonalds". And any other full of shit job you can think about. It's where you are dying every day so you can live on a few select days of your life. If you're not to powered out from working.

loon_attic wrote:

everything is shit and people love it because they're hipster masochists or something

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she said to eat her out w/ an ice curbe but nah goodnight lol

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#34 2016-10-28 22:53:10

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Re: DnE's perspective on the alt-right

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brainiac3397 wrote:

Hitler didn't create a populist/nationalist society. It already existed, he was just the cherry on top.

Hitler's main personal influence was actually the virulent nationalist left-liberal populist Georg Ritter von Schoenerer, IIRC.

I think he was primarily responsible for giving Hitler the influence and knowledge of the power of a political agitator. You could say he gave Hitler the core views that later allowed him to climb up the DAP ladders to finally become leader of NSDAP.

But the leaders of the DAP were the ones responsible for giving Hitler the actual tools. When you actually look into it, it's obvious Hitler wasn't exactly "insane" but just a radical of the time in the political chaos of Germanic society post-ww1. He also happened to possess the skill, connection, and charisma to put himself in a position that would present him with an opportunity he definitely didn't pass up on finalizing it by becoming Fuhrer.

Gotta say, I think people should seriously study the birth and rise of Hitler. It's actually pretty interesting stuff. Your typical asshole demagogue isn't usually as politically talented. I even doubt Trump is as talented considering his life of being a narcissitic big mouthed man-child. Compared to Hitler, Trump is a spoiled brat who hasn't done shit in his life except have a valuable name. Of course, Trump could be the Schoenerer for an American Hitler...

Not that we should be forgetting Hitler did some fucked up shit and probably did get crazy as fuck later on during his reign as fuhrer.

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#35 2016-11-02 05:52:08

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Re: DnE's perspective on the alt-right

The alt-right is basically a reaction to what's viewed as the ineffectiveness and "cuckoldry" of the mainstream neoconservatism that dominates the Republican Party et al. Portions of what we call the alt-right have also generated a rather comfy synthesis with white nationalism. I think the roots of the alt-right are online. I can see roots in the neoreaction movement (aka "Dark Enlightenment") as well as white nationalism and its influence on right-wing chan/meme culture. The loudest online proponents of the alt-right that I know of are avid participants in online meme culture, so it's rather hard for me not to see the whole thing as growing out of it. These people just needed an identity to latch onto and the Trumptrain to grab ahold of, and that's what they did.

The alt-right has a distinct culture that goes along with it that I think /really/ defines it more than its views because the alt-right is a movement of people who hold interrelated ideologies reacting against establishment conservatism as well as leftism. Many people have had these exact same viewpoints before the alt-right existed, and continue to hold them without being part of the alt-right. Ideologically they tend to have restrictionist immigration views, anti-trade views, and a hatred for what they see as political correctness (their anti-PC stance basically being their only merit in my view). And let's not forget they almost invariably support Donald Trump for president, another defining hallmark. When one digs further it's not hard to find explicit racism but this doesn't necessarily hold for all of the alt-right, and the racists actually rather dislike that their precious movement might be "co-opted" by people who are merely xenophobic.

I think these facts speak volumes about why the alt-right is so hard to define. You have everything from the blatantly racist pseudo-intellectual folks at American Renaissance to the dangerous faggot Milo and his buddies at Breitbart claiming to be organs of the alt-right. It's a diverse field united by their opposition to the mainstream in conservatism and left liberalism.

As far as their opinions are concerned, I tend to find myself at odds with them. These people tend to throw out the good parts of the libertarian-conservative fusionism that has pushed the intellectual development of the American conservative movement forward since Goldwater, throwing out the free market economics that libertarian economists have basically let conservatives borrow for over half a century. They're at best regressive on race, and at worst racists. The alt-right may be smart to bring a critical lens to our broken immigration policy, but their obvious anti-immigrant and anti-Islam xenophobia is unwarranted. Let's also not forget their loving support and fawning over real-life meme Donald Trump becoming president. I'll be the first to admit he was amusing to me too for quite a long time, but I guess most of the amusement has worn off (although I never really tire of seeing liberal tears).

I'm really confused as to what the left-wing Adolf Hitler has to do with rightism though...


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#36 2016-11-02 16:41:01

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TheWake wrote:

The alt-right is basically a reaction to what's viewed as the ineffectiveness and "cuckoldry" of the mainstream neoconservatism that dominates the Republican Party et al. Portions of what we call the alt-right have also generated a rather comfy synthesis with white nationalism. I think the roots of the alt-right are online. I can see roots in the neoreaction movement (aka "Dark Enlightenment") as well as white nationalism and its influence on right-wing chan/meme culture. The loudest online proponents of the alt-right that I know of are avid participants in online meme culture, so it's rather hard for me not to see the whole thing as growing out of it. These people just needed an identity to latch onto and the Trumptrain to grab ahold of, and that's what they did.

That's just what they tell the normies, fam. It isn't a reaction to neocons (who the hell cares about neocons in 2015/16?), but the American white nationalism of /pol/ having developed a political voice and converged with some older Nouvelle Droite types like Richard Spencer and Greg Johnson.

If there's any reaction that has propelled the alt-right, it's SJWs.

The alt-right has no relation to NRx, although in practice it has assimilated a good deal of it (like Butch Leghorn and the ethnonationalist camp in general). NRx is a distinct subculture of its own with people like Nick Land and the authors of Social Matter and West Coast RXers criticizing alt-righters.

Wes wrote:

The alt-right has a distinct culture that goes along with it that I think /really/ defines it more than its views because the alt-right is a movement of people who hold interrelated ideologies reacting against establishment conservatism as well as leftism. Many people have had these exact same viewpoints before the alt-right existed, and continue to hold them without being part of the alt-right. Ideologically they tend to have restrictionist immigration views, anti-trade views, and a hatred for what they see as political correctness (their anti-PC stance basically being their only merit in my view). And let's not forget they almost invariably support Donald Trump for president, another defining hallmark. When one digs further it's not hard to find explicit racism but this doesn't necessarily hold for all of the alt-right, and the racists actually rather dislike that their precious movement might be "co-opted" by people who are merely xenophobic.

The Donald Trump bandwagon was more of an opportune strategy for popularization; it got misinterpreted as being some defining characteristic. Actually a great many alt-righters are pessimistic or indifferent over a Trump presidency for demographic reasons or other.

"Explicit racism" is absolutely essential to the alt-right proper. As I said, you're operating under the exoteric creed ("alt-right is a broad tent against establishment conservatism") which is simply innocuous bait to lure in unsuspecting normies, although it was sort of true until recently. But again, by now it has unambiguously metastasized into American white nationalism+HBD. Just go look at Lawrence Murray, TRS and /r/altright. Hell, even the intellectual Counter-Currents has lost some of its interest in the more esoteric Conservative Revolutionary stuff in favor of straight WN, for strategic reasons.

Wes wrote:

I think these facts speak volumes about why the alt-right is so hard to define. You have everything from the blatantly racist pseudo-intellectual folks at American Renaissance to the dangerous faggot Milo and his buddies at Breitbart claiming to be organs of the alt-right. It's a diverse field united by their opposition to the mainstream in conservatism and left liberalism.

Milo isn't alt-right, fag.

>Amren
>"blatantly racist pseudo-intellectual"

The only problem with Amren is their refusal to name the Jew, for which Jared Taylor will be ovened when the Day of the Rope comes.

(More seriously, Amren is plenty flawed but still more robust than you give it credit for.)

Wes wrote:

As far as their opinions are concerned, I tend to find myself at odds with them. These people tend to throw out the good parts of the libertarian-conservative fusionism that has pushed the intellectual development of the American conservative movement forward since Goldwater, throwing out the free market economics that libertarian economists have basically let conservatives borrow for over half a century. They're at best regressive on race, and at worst racists. The alt-right may be smart to bring a critical lens to our broken immigration policy, but their obvious anti-immigrant and anti-Islam xenophobia is unwarranted. Let's also not forget their loving support and fawning over real-life meme Donald Trump becoming president. I'll be the first to admit he was amusing to me too for quite a long time, but I guess most of the amusement has worn off (although I never really tire of seeing liberal tears).

Laissez-faire is anathema to a proper right wing.

Wes wrote:

I'm really confused as to what the left-wing Adolf Hitler has to do with rightism though...

We're all left-wingers after 1789.

(Also, left-right have never had any economic policy consensus.)


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#37 2016-11-03 21:22:48

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Gonna bitch about the bitches that support Trump. I just heard some folk on radio say that "muh trump might be crude and rude but we need somebody who isn't politically correct". I then felt an urge to drive off a cliff(plus, it looked like a beautiful day to die).

For fucing fuck sake, the guy is a liar, a cheat, has defrauded businesses, sexually assaulted more than a dozen women, and is awaiting a trial regarding rape of a child. Is he just being "politically incorrect"? Can I claim I'm fighting political correctness by robbing stores, raping women, and refusing to pay my taxes?

This country is full of dumb motherfuckers. I try to empathize but this kind of ignorant stupidity is just insulting. Fuck the motherfuckers, I hope Trump does win and this country just falls into a burning shit pit known as the Republican utopia. All they can say is muh "crooked hillary" while the dipshit piece of bullshit has a laundry list of fuckery that they dismiss as "just not being PC".

2016 has amplified my cynicism...


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#38 2016-11-03 21:26:21

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Can I claim I'm fighting political correctness by robbing stores, raping women, and refusing to pay my taxes?

Yes.


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#39 2016-11-03 21:56:36

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I only "support" Trump because he is not as corrupt as Hillary and the corporate/elite influence is much lower or far less obvious. Doesn't mean I will vote for him. But I see where a lot of these people are coming from. Plus Trump lies much less than Hillary and when he does lie, it's like you think maybe he's just too stupid to know he's lying and he's actually just getting the facts wrong. Not ideal by any means, and I don't suggest ever voting for either of them, but there is far more evidence to suggest Hillary is sinister and that conspiracy did take place.

Also, awaiting trial doesn't mean he is even guilty of that thing. I swear I heard stuff about Bill doing that same shit even more times recently. and I think people are starting to cry wolf at this point for fame/attention or to hurt the campaigns they hate. Just because a woman said someone did something, since it is about a sensitive subject, everyone must believe it happened? It's kinda suspicious that they are now talking about this after so much time has passed, way to de-legitimize your claim.


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sloth wrote:

There are cemetery for living people. They are called "cubicles". And "assembly line". And "McDonalds". And any other full of shit job you can think about. It's where you are dying every day so you can live on a few select days of your life. If you're not to powered out from working.

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#40 2016-11-03 22:55:17

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Democrat or Republican, either way their heads are going on the chopping block.

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#41 2016-11-04 00:51:33

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break out the guillotines, boys

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#42 2016-11-04 01:45:58

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wait VR, so what you're saying is the alt-right is even shittier than I thought?


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#43 2016-11-04 01:50:28

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brainiac3397 wrote:

Gonna bitch about the bitches that support Trump. I just heard some folk on radio say that "muh trump might be crude and rude but we need somebody who isn't politically correct". I then felt an urge to drive off a cliff(plus, it looked like a beautiful day to die).

For fucing fuck sake, the guy is a liar, a cheat, has defrauded businesses, sexually assaulted more than a dozen women, and is awaiting a trial regarding rape of a child. Is he just being "politically incorrect"? Can I claim I'm fighting political correctness by robbing stores, raping women, and refusing to pay my taxes?

This country is full of dumb motherfuckers. I try to empathize but this kind of ignorant stupidity is just insulting. Fuck the motherfuckers, I hope Trump does win and this country just falls into a burning shit pit known as the Republican utopia. All they can say is muh "crooked hillary" while the dipshit piece of bullshit has a laundry list of fuckery that they dismiss as "just not being PC".

2016 has amplified my cynicism...

The Trump phenomenon is dumb folks thinking because they support Trump, they can be like Trump. That is, not have to really work, be an asshole and get away with it, and more importantly be rich like their boss.

Now, being a rich asshole is good (while we hate them) as long as you are surrounded by cops, lawyers, guns and money. You do not need social skills and if you do, you can hire someone to do it. Racism? Fuck you SJWs, I have money and do not have to include you in my reality (nor hire you). Women? Many throw themselves at Trump and unlike working class scum, does not matter if you are a fat ass or missing most your hair or have a 3 inch penis if your bank account is 7 figures. Working class drones fear pissing you off because if you are two minutes late with something or even have the hint of rudeness, rich asshole calls your boss and gets you fired. Anyone don't like it? You nuke them and destroy their life.

That fantasy is appealing to a lot of people. They think they can get Trump-like through osmosis.

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#44 2016-11-04 18:46:46

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wait VR, so what you're saying is the alt-right is even more based than I thought?

Yes.


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#45 2016-11-07 10:48:39

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alt-right is a mix of middle class and white working class disillusioned w mainstream conservatism and identity politics

it manifests in completely different ways in different countries, i.e. pro-brexit anti-immigration types are different from trump supporters, who are different from national front supporters in france etc.

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#46 2016-11-07 23:13:38

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Swift wrote:

alt-right is a mix of middle class and white working class disillusioned w mainstream conservatism and identity politics

it manifests in completely different ways in different countries, i.e. pro-brexit anti-immigration types are different from trump supporters, who are different from national front supporters in france etc.

At the same time, they aren't particularly knowledgeable about policy or politics. Still a large number of fools who believe we just let people into the country without even asking their names, when the real vetting process takes a long time and has multiple "checkpoints" in the process where an applicant can get rejected assuming they even made it past the intial application phase.

They also refuse to believe any of the existing facts. I get "disillusioned" but it's one thing to be disillusioned and another to be detached from reality where you create a nightmare fantasy that you end up criticizing. 2016 was basically a massive circlejerk from the alt-right to the piece of shit media that kept the jerk going to opposition that couldn't comprehend how a circlejerk worked.


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#47 2016-11-09 18:43:49

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disillusioned w mainstream conservatism and identity politics

No disillusionment with identity politics; it's anti-SJ identity politics tuned up to 11.


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#48 2016-11-10 16:33:14

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brainiac3397 wrote:
Swift wrote:

alt-right is a mix of middle class and white working class disillusioned w mainstream conservatism and identity politics

it manifests in completely different ways in different countries, i.e. pro-brexit anti-immigration types are different from trump supporters, who are different from national front supporters in france etc.

At the same time, they aren't particularly knowledgeable about policy or politics. Still a large number of fools who believe we just let people into the country without even asking their names, when the real vetting process takes a long time and has multiple "checkpoints" in the process where an applicant can get rejected assuming they even made it past the intial application phase.

They also refuse to believe any of the existing facts. I get "disillusioned" but it's one thing to be disillusioned and another to be detached from reality where you create a nightmare fantasy that you end up criticizing. 2016 was basically a massive circlejerk from the alt-right to the piece of shit media that kept the jerk going to opposition that couldn't comprehend how a circlejerk worked.

Without going too much into it, my job is to hook up various organizations with their "supporters" who donate cash. Many of these organizations have conservative agendas in addition to being a cash cow for the fundraising companies and the administration of the organization. The common supporters, even the "whales" - those that drop 10K on a cause, do not know what they are donating to. They only think in 1 word concepts. They think "cancer", "my local cops", "firefighters", "veterans", "sick kids", etc. They do not care WHO it is, just a one word concept. For instance, let's take police charities. Some of these are not charities. They do not pay for funerals for dead cops. Nor is it in the donor's local area. Some of them are educational foundations that do not get in politics at all. They help with CEUs, have a scholarship fund, and provide member benefits. Others are unions that lobby for tough anti crime laws. Others are victim's relief foundations. Some are only for city cops, others state troopers only, and some everything from campus cops on up. All VERY different. But all they see is "cops" and a hint that if something goes down and hey see a sticker, the sheriff will let them go if they catch them doing 90 going down the interstate.

Leftist organizations are not immune to this. Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, ACLU, NORML, etc are MUCH worse but I will save that rant for another time.

Bottom line is MANY people do not read much or research much. Not that hey are stupid in some cases. It is a matter of not much time and being isolated in echo chambers where opposing viewpoints are ridiculed or non existent.

It is George Orwell's NewSpeak.  Media knows this. All they got to say is filler then keywords like "black", "crime", "cancer", "government regulation", "guns", "SJW", "welfare queen" etc and it conjures up preconceived images in folk's head that can be manipulated even if the actual connotation of the word has nothing to do with what is actually going on. ALL groups have this. The "right" is no different.

Shame on both sides though. There is no right vs left, black vs white, gun lovers vs gun haters, Christians vs muslims. There is only rich vs poor. All else are just minor and meaningless squabbles.

This is the common thread that unites the SJWs AND alt-right.

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Re: DnE's perspective on the alt-right

I hear that Susan Coleman cancer org is just bullshit and that they will actively sue anybody who uses any of their trademarks including "for the cure".

Cynical skepticism wins again.


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#50 2016-11-11 16:16:26

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Re: DnE's perspective on the alt-right

brainiac3397 wrote:

I hear that Susan Coleman cancer org is just bullshit and that they will actively sue anybody who uses any of their trademarks including "for the cure".

Cynical skepticism wins again.

Of course.

Lots of charities choose sound-alike names to leech donations. That's because when they call their "supporters", the supporters would say, "I have already given" when actually they gave to a sound alike charity. The donor sees it as they gave to "cancer". To them, the organization is irrelevant. Few will give twice because in their mind, they already gave. Even if the organization does totally different work.That's the reason they sue.

It does not even have to be another charity. The WWE (pro wrestling) used to be called the WWF. Problem was there is an eco-charity called the World Wildlife Federation. They would call their whales and donors and lose donations because folks would think it was Hulk Hogan and Triple H, not cute pandas that were calling and were losing donations. Hence, a settlement and name change.

Salvation Army is even more cut throat. The Sally has some whale donors that come in and say they will pay X amount for how many people they serve. That is the reason in many soup kitchens you have a volunteer counting how many come in. Of course, the food is donated and it's cheap stuff. The whale is not there to see what they serve and the donation per person goes to the director. Does not matter if the whale paid 15 dollars a head and the food is powdered milk and pasta with no meat.

But... what if Food Not Bombs is serving rally good stuff under the bridge? Fewer people will show up to the sucky Sally feeding meaning they get less money from the whale. The Salvation Army calls the cops and arrests the people feeding good food under the bridge saying they have no health permit! That's the reason you have people going to jail for feeding the homeless in the news. The Sally and St. Vincent de Paul lose money. Thy have salaries to pay and that is the primary reason for their existence. Anyone getting helped is just necessary to get paid.

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